Well thanks for your help, and although I did try the “index finger tap” , finding that it didn’t work I resorted to my all time favourite, “kick the sh1t out of it” which also didn’t work fully, but it did show up a fault of dislodged memory which I’m am in the process of refitting along with the SSD which also didn’t take kindly to my “fix”, but all being well, and I can put it back together and don’t run out of superglue it should survive, although I’m a bit concerned about whether the bluetack will be good enough to hold the SSD in place. I also seem to have a few screws left over so I will stick then inside the case for maybe next time someone takes it apart, if they can break the glue that is. Thanks again for your insight into such complicated things, sorry you missed euro song contest, still on the bright side you might be able to catch one of the many repeats that will be shown. TTFN