DaveyDee Posted December 6, 2023 Report Posted December 6, 2023 Hi BjtheDJ I totally agree with you. it would help if someone was to put up a list of how to name tracks. And if everyone would fill in the Details rather than everyone that downloads them it would save a lot of wasted time (I.E. 1 person Verses say 10 people) I also add a tag at the end of tracks so too know what label it is I.E. [LEG] [sF] [sC] etc. All of my Just Tracks are labeled that's how I got my first discs so I continued. As for Legends Gold they as renamed discs from the main series as far as I can see Is this correct??, Do you have any I am missing ?? Legends Gold LG01 = LEG107 Legends Gold LG02 = LEG029 Legends Gold LG03 = LEG104 Legends Gold LG04 = LEG137 Legends Gold LG05 = LEG113 Legends Gold LG06 = Legends Gold LG07 = LEG040 Legends Gold LG08 = LEG080 Legends Gold LG09 = Legends Gold LG10 = LEG043 Legends Gold LG11 = LEG086 Legends Gold LG12 = LEG009 Legends Gold LG13 = LEG089 Legends Gold LG14 = LEG066 Legends Gold LG15 = LEG050 Legends Gold LG16 = Legends Gold LG17 = LEG125 Legends Gold LG18 = LEG105 Legends Gold LG19 = Legends Gold LG20 = Legends Gold LG21 = LEG010 Legends Gold LG22 = LEG069 Legends Gold LG23 = Legends Gold LG24 = Legends Gold LG25 = LEG121 Legends Gold LG26 = LEG115 Legends Gold LG27 = LEG014 Legends Gold LG28 = LEG114 Many Thanks The biggest problem with adopting a non-standard naming convention is where confusion sets in. There have been several attempts to re-design the wheel since KJ's moved away from a purely disc based system. Some like Rigmar did away with Disc and Track ID's altogether, losing all that information for just a Manufacturer code at the end of the filename. Different software houses tried to steer people towards different naming conventions, such as D-A-T, A-T-D, even reversing Artist Names to Last, First (which confuses things no end when there is no single convention for duet or multiple artist tracks). I remember seeing one track listed with the artists 'John, Olivia & Travolta, John, Newton' FFS!!! I was always of the opinion that if the majority of Disc Producers were happy listing the Artist Names in First Last order, why confuse things turning things around for some irrelevant alphabetising purpose which in this day and age is totally pointless as search engines can find anything with the barest minimum of information, i.e. typing John West in the search box won't just give you a tin of tuna, it will also return 'John Legend and Kanye West - Number One' amongst others. (Rose West will give you 'Westlife - The Rose' as well as a serial killer!!) Then you have the absurdity of swapping the order of title naming, moving ', A' or ', The' to the end of a title, but you never see titles listed as 'Englishman In New York, An' or 'Can't Take That Away From Me, They', or even 'Impossible, It's'.
Snr. Administrator BJtheDJ Posted December 7, 2023 Snr. Administrator Report Posted December 7, 2023 And this This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up FASTTRAX Looking thru my FTX directory I found that I made notes there as the company name chopped and changed, starting as QuickHitz then changing to FastTrax and then to Singer's Solution. Notes in the FTX directory read as follows: FTX015 on are SSP discs FTX1000-FTX1013 are QH discs FTX1022 on are SS discs FTXC400-FTXC403 are QHC discs FTXC418 on are SSC discs Which translates to: QH001 (2 different versions of that disc) to QH018 QH300 to QH338 QH1000 to QH1013 then FTX1014 to FTX1021 then SS1022 to SS1025; NOTE: 1008 appears as both QH1008 and SS1008 with identical tracks. QH also had two discs B09 and B10 (best of 2009 and 2010) which I have saved as QHB098 and QHB10 QHC400 to QHC403 then FTXC404 to FTXC417 then SSC416 to SSC455 NOTE: 416 & 417 were issued as both FTXC and SSC FTX001 is the same disc as QH338, different company label. There are also QHDUETS and QHXMAS discs in the QH directory. There's a disc in my SS directory listed as SSTS1989 a karaoke version of Taylor Swifts '1989' album, the label is TS1989 with no brand on it; like many of the QH/FTX/SS discs the label looks home printed. The person that sent it to me back in September of 2915 told me it was a new SS release. It's fairly obvious that QHC, FTXC and SSC discs are all country. QH19##, FT10## and SS10## are all single-artiste discs. FTX~~~ discs look to be Pop, same with QH3##, SSP015 label is Pop. I think that I'm 100% on all of those, have a very full few days in front of me so haven't had the time to check completely, if you need any then just LM. 1
Snr. Administrator BJtheDJ Posted December 7, 2023 Snr. Administrator Report Posted December 7, 2023 The biggest problem with adopting a non-standard naming convention is where confusion sets in. There have been several attempts to re-design the wheel since KJ's moved away from a purely disc based system. Some like Rigmar did away with Disc and Track ID's altogether, losing all that information for just a Manufacturer code at the end of the filename. Different software houses tried to steer people towards different naming conventions, such as D-A-T, A-T-D, even reversing Artist Names to Last, First (which confuses things no end when there is no single convention for duet or multiple artist tracks). I remember seeing one track listed with the artists 'John, Olivia & Travolta, John, Newton' FFS!!! I was always of the opinion that if the majority of Disc Producers were happy listing the Artist Names in First Last order, why confuse things turning things around for some irrelevant alphabetising purpose which in this day and age is totally pointless as search engines can find anything with the barest minimum of information, i.e. typing John West in the search box won't just give you a tin of tuna, it will also return 'John Legend and Kanye West - Number One' amongst others. (Rose West will give you 'Westlife - The Rose' as well as a serial killer!!) Then you have the absurdity of swapping the order of title naming, moving ', A' or ', The' to the end of a title, but you never see titles listed as 'Englishman In New York, An' or 'Can't Take That Away From Me, They', or even 'Impossible, It's'. You forgot Mann, Manfred and Ferdinand, Franz :devilish:
billy1 Posted December 7, 2023 Report Posted December 7, 2023 Just checked, all the releases you put in there are in the STTW share. The only differences are naming conventions Thanks for the reply DaveyDee.
Snr. Administrator BJtheDJ Posted December 7, 2023 Snr. Administrator Report Posted December 7, 2023 Hi BjtheDJ I totally agree with you. it would help if someone was to put up a list of how to name tracks. And if everyone would fill in the Details rather than everyone that downloads them it would save a lot of wasted time (I.E. 1 person Verses say 10 people) I also add a tag at the end of tracks so too know what label it is I.E. [LEG] [sF] [sC] etc. All of my Just Tracks are labeled that's how I got my first discs so I continued. As for Legends Gold they as renamed discs from the main series as far as I can see Is this correct??, Do you have any I am missing ?? Legends Gold LG01 = LEG107 Legends Gold LG02 = LEG029 Legends Gold LG03 = LEG104 Legends Gold LG04 = LEG137 Legends Gold LG05 = LEG113 Legends Gold LG06 = Legends Gold LG07 = LEG040 Legends Gold LG08 = LEG080 Legends Gold LG09 = Legends Gold LG10 = LEG043 Legends Gold LG11 = LEG086 Legends Gold LG12 = LEG009 Legends Gold LG13 = LEG089 Legends Gold LG14 = LEG066 Legends Gold LG15 = LEG050 Legends Gold LG16 = Legends Gold LG17 = LEG125 Legends Gold LG18 = LEG105 Legends Gold LG19 = Legends Gold LG20 = Legends Gold LG21 = LEG010 Legends Gold LG22 = LEG069 Legends Gold LG23 = Legends Gold LG24 = Legends Gold LG25 = LEG121 Legends Gold LG26 = LEG115 Legends Gold LG27 = LEG014 Legends Gold LG28 = LEG114 Many Thanks Must be honest Sharkie, I never bothered to correlate LG against LEG, but can see it now that you have pointed it out. The last time that I could bother to look the LG's weren't listed in KSLC, but I can see that Airwer lists them up to LG30 now. List of how to name tracks, easy. I use two conventions, one for regular discs and another for downloaded tracks Regular discs: [Manufacturer's cat#]-[Track#] - [Artist] - [Title] Downloaded tracks - I'm editing this 'cos I realised that I posted without typing this bit - I'll cover DL trax tomorrow. [Artist] If it's a band name starting with 'The' then I discard 'The' - unless it's The Who or The The; but the The Jam are just Jam If a band's name starts with 'A' then it stays. [Artist] Should be in the form [First Name] [Last Name]. Feat Feat. Featuring are all reduced to ft and if in the title transferred to artist. Where there are featured guest artists I try to be creative - but there's no way that I'll put a long list of them something like Joe Bloggs & Fanny Fortnight ft King Kong & Prince William w~ (always w~ not <<with>>) somebody else & his mother's best friend will get reduced to Joe Bloggs & Fanny Fortnight w~ friends [Title] As is, except for non alpha-numeric symbols - ie where a name starts with a paragraph marker viz. <<(Don't Fear) the Reaper>> where I delete the brackets or names that start with a full stop (period) or an exclamation mark. I also ignore all of the all-upper or all-lower case titles and capitalise them as normal. Time to get back to bed, woke up and spent the last half hour or so bashing the keyboard and sorting this out (poartially) in my head. May yet come back to it another time.
DaedalusWren Posted December 7, 2023 Report Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) And this Looking thru my FTX directory I found that I made notes there as the company name chopped and changed, starting as QuickHitz then changing to FastTrax and then to Singer's Solution. Notes in the FTX directory read as follows: FTX015 on are SSP discs FTX1000-FTX1013 are QH discs FTX1022 on are SS discs FTXC400-FTXC403 are QHC discs FTXC418 on are SSC discs Which translates to: QH001 (2 different versions of that disc) to QH018 QH300 to QH338 QH1000 to QH1013 then FTX1014 to FTX1021 then SS1022 to SS1025; NOTE: 1008 appears as both QH1008 and SS1008 with identical tracks. QH also had two discs B09 and B10 (best of 2009 and 2010) which I have saved as QHB098 and QHB10 QHC400 to QHC403 then FTXC404 to FTXC417 then SSC416 to SSC455 NOTE: 416 & 417 were issued as both FTXC and SSC FTX001 is the same disc as QH338, different company label. There are also QHDUETS and QHXMAS discs in the QH directory. There's a disc in my SS directory listed as SSTS1989 a karaoke version of Taylor Swifts '1989' album, the label is TS1989 with no brand on it; like many of the QH/FTX/SS discs the label looks home printed. The person that sent it to me back in September of 2915 told me it was a new SS release. It's fairly obvious that QHC, FTXC and SSC discs are all country. QH19##, FT10## and SS10## are all single-artiste discs. FTX~~~ discs look to be Pop, same with QH3##, SSP015 label is Pop. I think that I'm 100% on all of those, have a very full few days in front of me so haven't had the time to check completely, if you need any then just LM. OK, so if I understand this correctly and I can follow the map through the three different manufacturers/title changes, My collections are missing FTX008, FTX009, FTX011 to FTX014 then SSP015 to SSP045, SSP048, SSP053 and beyond. Also missing FTXC416, FTXC417, SSC416 to SSC446, SSC454, SSC455 then FTX/QH300 - 315, 317 to 321, 339 and beyond, and FTX1020, SS1022 to SS1025. I also do not have the TS1989 nor any SS19xx discs. Well, I think that is it, but i could have missed something jumping back and fourth between the SS, FTX, QH directories to map them out. Edited December 8, 2023 by DaedalusWren
DaveyDee Posted December 7, 2023 Report Posted December 7, 2023 [Artist] If it's a band name starting with 'The' then I discard 'The' - unless it's The Who or The The; but the The Jam are just Jam If a band's name starts with 'A' then it stays. Could really have fun with tracks by The The...! Not sure I use the best method of coding Downloaded tracks, but on tracks I have downloaded myself I tend to go with the two-letter ID of the label - SF, KV, etc - and add a D so SF becomes SFD, KV becomes KVD, a - and then the track code number where it is identifiable, i.e. 'KVD-12345'. I do not use the numbers given on the downloads for KV, as they are traceable order numbers, I open out the zip files to find the code numbers and use them instead. Companies like MR Entertainer, SBI, VocalStar, etc. who use codes that are 'a bit weird', I try to make them as relateable to the Label as possible - SBI 'G12345' codes I change to 'SBI-12345', etc, and downloaded track codes for disc downloads I generally change to reflect what the codes would be if I had ripped the physical product (when I remember!). These conventions I use for my own purposes. All my files are stored in Manufacturer folders, with sub folders for Downloads alongside the folders for the different sets for working purposes, as I don't actually name track files for the purpose of sharing!
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DaveyDee Posted December 7, 2023 Report Posted December 7, 2023 Hi thankyou for this update unfortunately mch23wi 217 trk will not download it says temporary error im not sure whether its a bad file or mega fault but i thought i would let you know thanks once again. Regards Kerry Not sure what the error is that you are encountering... I have tried downloading on several different machines, and on different IP addresses, and all the files including 217 have downloaded and verified ok. Have you by any chance hit your download limit? You could try clearing out your browser cache, or if you use it, shut down and reopen your MEGASync app. Once again, I am unable to replicate the error you are experiencing, and others have reported no problems, so I can only suugest you try changing or re-setting things your end. Hope you manage to resolve the issue.
DaedalusWren Posted December 7, 2023 Report Posted December 7, 2023 Take this This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up My FastTrax Collection, add this This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up , my QuikHitz Collection and This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up , my Singers Soloution Collection Which are missing some, but to which I will add any shared with me from my missing list This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up BJ has offered up his full collection research.(FTX, QH, SS) This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Thanks BJ for the rundown. 3 1
1BadMan Posted December 7, 2023 Report Posted December 7, 2023 Take this This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up My FastTrax Collection, add this This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up , my QuikHitz Collection and This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up , my Singers Soloution Collection Which are missing some, but to which I will add any shared with me from my missing list This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up BJ has offered up his full collection research.(FTX, QH, SS) This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Thanks BJ for the rundown. Here is my collections of FT, QH, and SS. Almost all of these are ripped from my physical discs This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up 1
DaveyDee Posted December 7, 2023 Report Posted December 7, 2023 Here is my collections of FT, QH, and SS. Almost all of these are ripped from my physical discs This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Just an observation, but generally shares put up on here are not usually subject to confirmation... 1
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